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let's add the name of susan rice to this discussion. because i think we might not even be having this discussion had he picked susan rice and had she had a better shot at being confirmed. a lot of progressives are still upset he didn't fight for her like he's going to have to fight for hagel. i want to leave that question aside. i don't think it has to do with gender. if he got his way, he didn't tell me he wanted to pick her, but had he been able to appoint susan rice, this might be a different picture. we might not even be talking about it. >> who did he pass over that could have met the quality test year? you don't have to be exactly the same as john kerry, but in that league. this is what i think you're pointing out about bringing up the farm team. >> who is it actually? >> all the press, all the guys on the right now are saying flournoy. i don't know her. >> i don't know her either but i'm told she's terrific. >> her resume is dynamite. >> and would have been a great choice. but again, you bring people up and they develop a public
let's add the name of susan rice to this discussion. because i think we might not even be having this discussion had he picked susan rice and had she had a better shot at being confirmed. a lot of progressives are still upset he didn't fight for her like he's going to have to fight for hagel. i want to leave that question aside. i don't think it has to do with gender. if he got his way, he didn't tell me he wanted to pick her, but had he been able to appoint susan rice, this might be a...
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i see the way he abandoned susan rice not the deal with it and they don't want to burn political capital on the bandwidth, but hagel will be okay, and there is going to be a lot of hue and cry, but i don't believe he will be abandoned. >> and what about susan rice to have this fight with hagel and brought up a whole set of concerns here whether or not the president's second ed administration is going to be less diverse than the first administration. we heard carney response sponding to the the claims earlier this week. >> well, janet napolitano is the secretary of homeland security, an cabinet level and the ambassador is susan rice, and this president has made two appointments to the supreme court, and both of them women. his commitment to dwsh. >> do you believe it is an unfair sgharnlg. >> well, the record speaks for itself. >> it is a good point and bad point, because when you can list the women on your hand, there are not enough women, like -- >> get a binder. >> i have a whole handful of women, and that alone makes you go, no, no, wrong answer, like, right, don't start naming them,
i see the way he abandoned susan rice not the deal with it and they don't want to burn political capital on the bandwidth, but hagel will be okay, and there is going to be a lot of hue and cry, but i don't believe he will be abandoned. >> and what about susan rice to have this fight with hagel and brought up a whole set of concerns here whether or not the president's second ed administration is going to be less diverse than the first administration. we heard carney response sponding to...
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would have done it again were it not for republican opposition to susan rice. and so i think you'd have to be really fair about how we paint this portrait of what's happening. >> okay. i think those are all fair points. but, rosa, one thing that strikes me is when you look at any organization, let's take the white house, the cabinet. there's all kinds of positions that are quote unquote management. there's more vps in most companies than there are mds and it keeps going up. when you look at the fence, the cia and state and treasury, there's no women. now, to charles' point he was going to try to nominate susan rice and he had hillary clinton there but does he need a woman in one of those positions? >> i sure think it would be nice to see a woman in one of those positions. i think charles' point, it's obviously fair that almost half of the presidential appointees overall have been women, but when you look at the top, you see a really different story and this is not unique to the government. this is true in fortune 500 corporations. this is true in education. no
would have done it again were it not for republican opposition to susan rice. and so i think you'd have to be really fair about how we paint this portrait of what's happening. >> okay. i think those are all fair points. but, rosa, one thing that strikes me is when you look at any organization, let's take the white house, the cabinet. there's all kinds of positions that are quote unquote management. there's more vps in most companies than there are mds and it keeps going up. when you look...
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first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement picking this guy? >> he also thought he would give him cover on the necessary defense reductions. he's a republican. therefore, he helps them with that. that's pretty much shot. chuck hagel is no longer seen as a republican. he's seen as a -- an outliar. chris: let's talk about guns. this is tough. guns. can he get something? can he get something big? >> you're seeing that argument sort of play out right now in t
first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right...
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ambassador susan rice. the fact is, secretary hillary clinton was the most prominent woman in the president's ka cabinet. she is being replaced by a man, senator kerry. as of now, there are fewer women in the mix. >> brianna, thanks very much. kate bolduan is here with more. what are you hearing about the timing? >> the timing in terms of the confirmation hearing, i'm told that the armed services committee hopes to consider hagel's nomination by the end of this month but simply schedulewise, it could be difficult because the senate isn't in session this week or next and when senators do return, it's customary for the nominee to have a period of time, a week, a couple weeks to meet with can committee members before and key senators before confirmation hearings begin. for more on a little bit of this, we'll go to tom foreman with a sense of what we can expect when those hearings are under way. tom, you're in a place that no one gets to go. >> that's right. here in our virtual center, we're going to talk about
ambassador susan rice. the fact is, secretary hillary clinton was the most prominent woman in the president's ka cabinet. she is being replaced by a man, senator kerry. as of now, there are fewer women in the mix. >> brianna, thanks very much. kate bolduan is here with more. what are you hearing about the timing? >> the timing in terms of the confirmation hearing, i'm told that the armed services committee hopes to consider hagel's nomination by the end of this month but simply...
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they all but nominated kerry them when beating up on susan rice. it would be heart to double back on him now. >> john: somewhere scott brown is washing his truck. charles pierce, so great to have you on the program. >> thanks, john, i appreciate it. >> john: thank you, for now on what president obama hopes to accomplish in his second temperature i'm happy to be joined by current tv correspondent david shuster and eric boehlert scene fellow with media matters for america. what does he have a better chance of pushing through. >> i think he has a greater chance on gun control and charles was right. it will make the heads explode on the right and make banning assault weapons closing gun show loops holes would seem reasonable. i think that sets the president up in a pretty good negotiating position. >> john: what track record do you think he'll be willing to ruffle executive orders. >> the haguethe hagueel,the republicans made it clear they didn't want chuck hagel. the president said here is my republican. beat him up. go show america that they won't ev
they all but nominated kerry them when beating up on susan rice. it would be heart to double back on him now. >> john: somewhere scott brown is washing his truck. charles pierce, so great to have you on the program. >> thanks, john, i appreciate it. >> john: thank you, for now on what president obama hopes to accomplish in his second temperature i'm happy to be joined by current tv correspondent david shuster and eric boehlert scene fellow with media matters for america. what...
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david axelrod wanted me to say -- i think this is fair -- about susan rice. he said i never said -- never said that the president had never considered susan rice, said he had considered her, but he had just never heard that that was his choice. so -- >> i had heard he really wanted her for the position and really considering her from other people. but, you know what, since you bring it up, we love this show. we had a great heated conversation at the top of the 6:00 about -- numbers of -- >> binders. >> about the numbers of women serving in the president's cabin cabinet. i actually have a list of high-ranking women in the white house. but i'm going to hold that. >> good, read that. >> you know what -- there are good points to be made on both sides of this. this is one of the biggest arguments we ever had. some of the bigger ones, torture -- you were right on that. >> wrong on that one. >> i will say i did use a bad word perfect tank you and i'm very sorry about that because you are not chauvinistic. of all the people that work here at msnbc, you are not a chau
david axelrod wanted me to say -- i think this is fair -- about susan rice. he said i never said -- never said that the president had never considered susan rice, said he had considered her, but he had just never heard that that was his choice. so -- >> i had heard he really wanted her for the position and really considering her from other people. but, you know what, since you bring it up, we love this show. we had a great heated conversation at the top of the 6:00 about -- numbers of --...
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he wanted susan rice as secretary of state. >> u.n. ambassador. >> u.n. ambassador, and she was heavily criticized by various others and she withdrew her name and i think he was simply determined that he wasn't going to be pushed around again, that he was going to pick hagel and also he has a friendship with hagel that goes back. >> paul: to the senate days. >> for several years so i think it -- a lot of these decisions aren't just simply ideological or policy decisions, there's a personality. >> paul: do you think he wants a fight? >> i think he's had a fight, probably fight that he thinks he can win and calling over to the senate and house both. what is striking to me as well, hagel doesn't have experience in what he's tasked to do, running the pentagon. president obama involves we're not getting involved in syria or push too hard, his main job is to run pentagon. >> he was enlisted in vietnam, and distinguished service, two purple hearts and knows what it's like to be an enlisted man and fighting on the ground and have those people foremost in his mind
he wanted susan rice as secretary of state. >> u.n. ambassador. >> u.n. ambassador, and she was heavily criticized by various others and she withdrew her name and i think he was simply determined that he wasn't going to be pushed around again, that he was going to pick hagel and also he has a friendship with hagel that goes back. >> paul: to the senate days. >> for several years so i think it -- a lot of these decisions aren't just simply ideological or policy decisions,...
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he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the election with 51% and i'm going to try to impose my will as much as i can. >> chuck hagel and john kerry, the politico today, their headline story, points to how formidable these two might be for many reasons but, again, both being vietnam veterans and how this could with the president's agenda and strategy set the stage for wars in the future or the avoid answer of military footprint on the ground and the years ahead, john. >> well, i think to some degree the latter, tamron, is the relevant point here. the term vietnam veteran brings with it th
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declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice case and chuck hagel case, if they were sure that is who they were going to nominate, i think it should have been done promptly but all these sort of test nominations that they send out there, i think just cause the media to naturally focus on it and potential opponents of that nomination just pile on. >> outgoing secretary of state hillary clinton, she is facing pressure to testify on the benghazi matter. do you think that benghazi episode is a blot on her record as secretary of state? do you think it will affect her political future? >> i don't think so. i don't know what she knew about it or didn't know a
declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice...
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look at susan rice. i think the fact the republicans are aiming at one of their own, at chuck hagel, is really an astonishing sort of symbol of where we're at in terms of finding bipartisanship, that that would be smacked down by the republican party. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the show, of all the people the president has nominated so far, you would think john brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that congress is more unpopular than head lice. >> and cockroaches. >> nickelback. >> castro still slightly more unpopular, but i think they can fix that
look at susan rice. i think the fact the republicans are aiming at one of their own, at chuck hagel, is really an astonishing sort of symbol of where we're at in terms of finding bipartisanship, that that would be smacked down by the republican party. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the show, of all the people the president has nominated so far, you would think john brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can...
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he did try to get susan rice before senator kerry took it. i think you raised a legitimate point as he continues his nominations. take for example the transportation. he has an ideal choice here to pick a woman, a republican. senator hutchison from texas who really understands the infrastructure challenges of our nation. and i think as a republican can help us raise money in public-private ventures. understanding government can't get the $100 billion needed for our roads that need repair and enhancement. we have to do it like the state of illinois did. city of chicago did. do private-public ventures. but the president did appoint two people who were women to the supreme court. but i do think this is a legitimate point as he continues on. >> hogan, i'm curious about the debt ceiling fight. we know that is looming. it is expected to get nasty. how much do you think the republicans are going to take on the president, take on the democrats? you see what senator harry reid did. he wrote a letter to the president saying listen you have our support.
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if that isn't the case, why wouldn't he have stuck with susan rice, for example. >> i think first with susan it's not sure whether he wanted john kerry or susan to be the secretary of state. he had been through a long tough campaign. as soon as the campaign was over the republicans decideed to manufacture another crisis on the fiscal cliff. i think the president is determined to appoint the people he feels are best, and the republicans are determined at every turn to oppose them no matter what the merits. >> jennifer: i completely agree with you. it will be battle after battle after battle. folks out there if you're battle weary you better put on your armor, it's coming. if jack lou becomes treasury secretary. >> i don't think that will stop him at all. >> jennifer: i agree. that means his chief of staff will be open. ron klain and denis tell bus that. >> i've worked with ron. he's extraordinaryily well-qualified. he has been the chief of staff to the vice president gore two administrations, vice president gore and vice president biden and he is trusted by the president. denis i don't
if that isn't the case, why wouldn't he have stuck with susan rice, for example. >> i think first with susan it's not sure whether he wanted john kerry or susan to be the secretary of state. he had been through a long tough campaign. as soon as the campaign was over the republicans decideed to manufacture another crisis on the fiscal cliff. i think the president is determined to appoint the people he feels are best, and the republicans are determined at every turn to oppose them no matter...
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susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women becoming assistant secretaries, high-level ambassadorships on the foreign policy front and i think you'll find a woman finding a spot in one of the domestic cabinet posts. but it's, i think, the president felt he had to pick the people that were best and their names were kerry, brennan and hagel, after he floated rice around a little and she didn't track. >> because of the movie "lincoln" that's been out and doris concerns good win's book "team of rivals," obama's cabinet picks now for a second term are the least team of rivals ever. explain that a bit. >> yes. i mean these are a team of friends. i don't blame the president. look, you're in the second term now, you've won a big election like he did. you don't want to have to constantly pick the political choice. you want the person you think can get the job done. chuck hagel is not afraid to slash defense budgets. you really need a veteran to do that. the first secretary of defense a v vietnam war veteran. hag
susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women becoming assistant secretaries, high-level ambassadorships on the foreign policy front and i think you'll find a woman finding a spot in one of the domestic cabinet posts. but it's, i think, the president felt he had to pick the people that were best and their names were kerry, brennan and hagel, after he floated rice around a little and she didn't track. >> because of the movie "lincoln"...
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. >> susan rice who wanted to be looking for opportunity to implement a responsible agent to protect scenario that would succeed. so that's a whole section again, and how to become to intervene and why was is actually a good idea. the next question of course is the one everyone is talking about is where is libya headed next. you know, i think with regards to what happened in benghazi, it is still, i think one needs to take, regardless of all the chaos that is happening, to step back, go up several thousand feet and look at this process over a much longer period of time. we are still a year into this revolution. nobody really expected -- i think many libyans expected this is going to be a shorter and more pleasant experience than it has been an urban construct with a very -- at the same time, in my trips to libya over the last two years i've seen a remarkable story of people, people of ex-patriots have come back and drop everything, lucrative jobs in europe and states to help build infrastructure. the way in which the local elections were held in benghazi in may, it was excellent glor
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first of all, remember, he sort of side-stepped that susan rice issue. republicans said they'll give him a fair hearing. he tried to reach across the aisle. we've seen him do this in the past and get someone who is a republican or a former republican lawmaker in the administration. it would give his administration the bipartisan tone he's going for. he's a vietnam war vet. he won the purple heart. obviously has some credentials behind him to help him lead the defense department. also a lot of questions ahead in these confirmation hearings. >> last question, tracie, before we let you go. if hagel is not confirmed, who is the backup? >> reporter: there were several other people we understand on the short list. the number two ashton carter at the defense department. there were backups and other people on the short list. obviously the president thinks he can get through this confirmation process. we don't know what that will happen. >> thanks so much. >> we're following a developing story overseas this morning. we have new video of google executive chairman
first of all, remember, he sort of side-stepped that susan rice issue. republicans said they'll give him a fair hearing. he tried to reach across the aisle. we've seen him do this in the past and get someone who is a republican or a former republican lawmaker in the administration. it would give his administration the bipartisan tone he's going for. he's a vietnam war vet. he won the purple heart. obviously has some credentials behind him to help him lead the defense department. also a lot of...
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rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delaying confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration. the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know, what can they do to you? send you back to vietnam? >> that all may be true. on the importance of this response, that the number two democrat in the senate, new york's chuck schumer, gave to "the wall street journal" when asked about hagel's nomination. >> you owe the
rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delaying confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration. the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion...
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yeah, please do that after you fought against susan rice. and please -- >> you ask why there aren't women in the inner circle. >> and by the way, there's going to be a gun debate coming up. and if republicans take an extremist stance and instead of fighting for handguns and fighting for the right to keep and bear, you know, hunting weapons and the right to keep and bear arms, instead fight for these massive clips, these high-capacity magazine clips and assault weapons, 2014, you've put all of this stuff together, jon meacham, 2014 is going to be a rough year for the republican party. i said '12 was moving them toward wig status. if they continue to be the party of extreme ideas and extreme factions instead of the party of balanced budgets, the party of less taxes, the party of less regulation, the party of more economic freedom, then they're going to get -- seriously, they are going to move one step closer to political oblivion. >> yeah. i still think it's really important to look at the analogy of the democratic party which spent so much ti
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one withdrew, susan rice. he is going to have trouble in his second term being able to advance an agenda to get what he wants done. >> speaking of brain-related events. ladies and gentlemen dana perino! [ laughter ] >> yes, susan rice has plenty of friends. and a lot of times what you get from the fox news folks, and dr. keith ablow can well you this, excuse me dr. keith a-blow. it's called projection and it sounds like somebody took all of her toys ott of the sand box. >> stephanie: exactly. rush limbaugh >> gay marriage is the new escape from slavery. >> what? >> for the civil right's crowd -- for the -- the hip left gay marriage is -- is up from slavery in the same sense -- >> wow. >> -- of punishment or discrimination or what have you? >> i think he is off his meds. >> stephanie: karl can you translate that? >> this is right after he started comparing the push for marriage equality to some apparent push to normalize pedophilia. >> stephanie: oh right. >> rush tries to stay away from me. and elton john perf
one withdrew, susan rice. he is going to have trouble in his second term being able to advance an agenda to get what he wants done. >> speaking of brain-related events. ladies and gentlemen dana perino! [ laughter ] >> yes, susan rice has plenty of friends. and a lot of times what you get from the fox news folks, and dr. keith ablow can well you this, excuse me dr. keith a-blow. it's called projection and it sounds like somebody took all of her toys ott of the sand box. >>...
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susan rice did in those sunday talk shows. there was this deleted reference to al qaeda involvement which was in the classified version. it was taken out when used by ambassador rice and senator graham has questions about who changed that. the intelligence committee has spoken to this. they said that they changed it and more specifically that the cia changed those talking points but senator graham is not satisfied. he says he has more questions before john brennan is confirmed and while he's not on the senate's committee on intelligence, he could hold up the nomination. >> and we're going to be speaking in the next hour to senator john mccain. he still has a lot of serious questions about benghazi as well. thanks very much. >>> the boeing 787 is called the boeing dreamliner but why it's not so dreamy. why one flight was canceled today just as it was about to take off. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!!
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rice at the united nations. so there's another visual for you, wolf, of women. but i've been told by a few sources, as i've been looking into these cabinet appointments, that they are really actively going after a woman to run the commerce department which is another key cabinet position. so they are on the hunt for women. >> the "new york times" did an analysis of female high level appointees over the past three administrations and they said the obama and clinton administration had 43% compared to the bush administration which had a 33% rate. so obviously things for women are improving. >> that's what they say. and there's another picture that ran in the "new york times" todays. i'm not sure if we have it but there's a picture -- there it is. there's a picture that ran in the "new york times" today. again, another visual that the white house doesn't like. if you look closely, wolf, there's a leg there in front of the president's desk and that's valerie's leg. that's a really important leg because she's a key ad
rice at the united nations. so there's another visual for you, wolf, of women. but i've been told by a few sources, as i've been looking into these cabinet appointments, that they are really actively going after a woman to run the commerce department which is another key cabinet position. so they are on the hunt for women. >> the "new york times" did an analysis of female high level appointees over the past three administrations and they said the obama and clinton administration...
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whether the debt ceiling, gun control, fiscal cliff, his first nominee for secretary of state susan rice, republicans are here to remind him that they are significant opposition, number one. number two, their own foreign policy, they are trying to figure out a way in the wake of bush 43 to identify a foreign policy muscular foreign policy that is different than the democrats. i think a lot of this is feeding the controversy. >> gregg: fair enough. you also debunk the argument that hagel is not qualified. in doing so in part you are siding with some derision. another pentagon chief who was well qualified, does judgment trump experience? >> it's a fascinating point. don rumsfeld is one of the most brilliant people that i've ever met. there is no question about it. if you look at the first george w. bush administration and you look at the policies on iraq, you had a group of people who were as well qualified, whose resumes if you stack them up were among the most remarkable in washington in the history of our foreign policy. and yet, you ended up with on a set of decisions, certainly on ira
whether the debt ceiling, gun control, fiscal cliff, his first nominee for secretary of state susan rice, republicans are here to remind him that they are significant opposition, number one. number two, their own foreign policy, they are trying to figure out a way in the wake of bush 43 to identify a foreign policy muscular foreign policy that is different than the democrats. i think a lot of this is feeding the controversy. >> gregg: fair enough. you also debunk the argument that hagel...
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john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing although i believe part of it is personal and this element they do have very different world views now. >> which is why the confirmation hearing and his answers will be that much more critical than earlier. >> they also, as you mentioned, harold, reservations from democrats with members of the party stopping short of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement reading in part quote chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his record and exploring his views. at the white
john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing...
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imagine what the stories would look like now if susan rice had been nominated to be secretary of state and michelle florinoi was the first defense secretary. >> i'm told that they are looking for a woman for commerce. i'm sure they are all very qualified. and then you say, oh, they needed a woman and they are putting that woman in a job because she's a woman. well, that's not a good storyline for them. >> or for people like you and me. >> right. exactly. and then the other question i have is, how much does the president, the top people listen to the women who are there? is it a question of numbers of women or is it a question of influence of women? i mean, you could argue that valley jarrett is the closest person on the senior staff to the president, long time friend close to the president and close to the first lady but how much do the -- two of the three deputies chief of staff are women. what's their impact? >> i can't tell you, ruth, how many democratic women have whispered, said to me -- and they are pretty upset about this -- why does the president decide to fight for chuck hagel
imagine what the stories would look like now if susan rice had been nominated to be secretary of state and michelle florinoi was the first defense secretary. >> i'm told that they are looking for a woman for commerce. i'm sure they are all very qualified. and then you say, oh, they needed a woman and they are putting that woman in a job because she's a woman. well, that's not a good storyline for them. >> or for people like you and me. >> right. exactly. and then the other...
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the ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. again i could go through the list. this president has made two appointments to the supreme court. both of them were women. and i'd think his commitment to -- >> [inaudible] >> well i think the record speaks for itself, and certainly that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broad administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the head line of the photograph to read the story. the story documents the comparative here with not just president bush and i compare the increase was representation of women in senior positions is dramatic. it is consistent with or greater than president clinton's staff as well. and when it comes to judges, 47% of president obama's confirm the judges, and we have an issue with confirmation in the senate as you know, but 47% of those confirmed have been women compared to 22% for president george w. bush and 29% for president clinton. so i think the record here speaks for itself. >> when you say the totality, the others
the ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. again i could go through the list. this president has made two appointments to the supreme court. both of them were women. and i'd think his commitment to -- >> [inaudible] >> well i think the record speaks for itself, and certainly that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broad administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the head line of the...
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rice. that was the problem. i think it is choreography. i think it is timing, and i'm told, by the way, that they are looking, for example, for a woman at a key post, if not the top four. they are looking for a woman to head the commerce department. but the pictures we're seeing, wolf, of all of these men in "the new york times" yesterday -- if we have it. these men standing around in the oval office with the president of the united states. >> an official white house photo. >> right. >> too that -- >> you pointed out there is -- two women, not just the first lady, but one other woman that is close with him in a big way. she might not be a cabinet post but valerie jarrett, we condition underestimate her role. >> she's critically important. she's staying, she's not going anywhere. what i pointed out half jokingly, there's the famous picture. >> you see valerie's leg -- >> it's hidden there. >> her leg is behind the communications director. but they understand that they -- the optics of this i
rice. that was the problem. i think it is choreography. i think it is timing, and i'm told, by the way, that they are looking, for example, for a woman at a key post, if not the top four. they are looking for a woman to head the commerce department. but the pictures we're seeing, wolf, of all of these men in "the new york times" yesterday -- if we have it. these men standing around in the oval office with the president of the united states. >> an official white house photo....
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ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. and, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court, both of them women. and i think that his commitment to -- >> you think it's an unfair charge? >> well, i think that the record speaks for itself, and certainly, that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broader administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the headline of the photograph to read the story, because the story documents that the comparative here with not just president bush and the increase in the representation of women in senior positions is dramatic; it's consistent with or greater than president clinton's staff as well. and when it comes to judges, 47 percent of president obama's confirmed judges -- and we have an issue with confirmation here with senate as you know -- but the 47 percent of those who have been confirmed have been women compared to 22 percent for president george w. bush and 29 percent for presi
ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. and, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court, both of them women. and i think that his commitment to -- >> you think it's an unfair charge? >> well, i think that the record speaks for itself, and certainly, that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broader administration. and i think, again, i would urge...
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rice and ended up not picking her. do you view this as a political move to try to win a fight with republicans? >> no, absolutely not. this is someone that the president inherently trusts, and this is one of the most important positions in the administration. so the president needs someone that he has faith is going to be able to preside over a transformation of our military, right? this is going to be one of the most important four-year periods of time in our military's history over the past several decades. we're going to be withdrawing from afghanistan. we're going to be figuring out our new footprint in the world, and the president trusts chuck hagel. and to try to make this sound like it's a pick outside of the mainstream is absolutely ridiculous. chuck hagel has been widely regarded as one of the smartest people on defense and national security issues on both sides of the aisle. many of his colleagues, who right now are contemplating voting against him in the united states senate have wonderful things to say abou
rice and ended up not picking her. do you view this as a political move to try to win a fight with republicans? >> no, absolutely not. this is someone that the president inherently trusts, and this is one of the most important positions in the administration. so the president needs someone that he has faith is going to be able to preside over a transformation of our military, right? this is going to be one of the most important four-year periods of time in our military's history over the...
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and let's keep in mind, he did talk about putting susan rice as secretary of state. i find this criticism unfair. he's finding the best people for the job and best hopes he can get through the united states senate. c-span: those of us in a circle, to? >> guest: we work directly with women because for women's organization and i see more and more of that. this president has been incredibly strong on bringing people in the process, both women and people of color. he's also worked on policies on that front. this is a man who said he will sign act first. this is someone who really does lead by action will continue cns. this happens to be three appointments incredibly important. all three will be good strong folks, but at the end of the day, you'll see other people coming into administration, just as you have to last for years. >> host: minneapolis, minnesota. sharon schriock at emily's list. >> caller: good morning. you just talked about some of the issues i have and because there is. will the women in congress look forward to helping some of the minorities that have work
and let's keep in mind, he did talk about putting susan rice as secretary of state. i find this criticism unfair. he's finding the best people for the job and best hopes he can get through the united states senate. c-span: those of us in a circle, to? >> guest: we work directly with women because for women's organization and i see more and more of that. this president has been incredibly strong on bringing people in the process, both women and people of color. he's also worked on policies...
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and also these visits to capitol hill which hurt susan rice so badly. the white house believes they'll have the opposite effect for senator hagel, that is he meets with senator schumer and others as they're reminded of this personal story that these other issues will fade away. >> you know, i mean, what he did for mitch mcconnell's entire - extended family, according to john heilemann. >> poor heilmann. >> i've got to ask, what was mitch mcconnell's grandma doing in saigon at the time during the tete offense? >> she went to see her son. >> and then he saved them all, according to john heilemann. >> in one fell swoop. >> exactly. >> i'd love to talk to one of these republicans one day who is against hagel, a guy who fought a war, a guy who's got shrapnel in his chest, who understands. >> those are the same guys i was talking about at the top of the hour. >> i know chuck and i like him very much. chuck's got really short elbows. you know, it's not -- and i've had some republican senators tell me, it's not the way he voted or how he -- you know, he seemed
and also these visits to capitol hill which hurt susan rice so badly. the white house believes they'll have the opposite effect for senator hagel, that is he meets with senator schumer and others as they're reminded of this personal story that these other issues will fade away. >> you know, i mean, what he did for mitch mcconnell's entire - extended family, according to john heilemann. >> poor heilmann. >> i've got to ask, what was mitch mcconnell's grandma doing in saigon at...